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		<title>By: Sharp Talon</title>
		<link>http://notaboutreligion.com/2009/05/11/religious-wisdom-of-americas-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-31749</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharp Talon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they were just a bunch of Diest I wonder why they passed the following in Congress (among many others):

Saturday, November 1, 1777

The committee appointed to prepare a recommendation to the several states, to set apart a day of public thanksgiving, brought in a report; which was taken into consideration, and agreed to as follows:

Forasmuch as it is the indispensable duty of all men to adore the superintending providence of Almighty God; to acknowledge with gratitude their obligation to him for benefits received, and to implore such farther blessings as they stand in need of; and it having pleased him in his abundant mercy not only to continue to us the innumerable bounties of his common providence, but also smile upon us in the prosecution of a just and necessary war, for the defense and establishment of our unalienable rights and liberties; particularly in that he hath been pleased in so great a measure to prosper the means used for the support of our troops and to crown our arms with most signal success:

It is therefore recommended to the legislative or executive powers of these United States, to set apart Thursday, the 18th day of December next, for solemn thanksgiving and praise; that with one heart and one voice the good people may express the grateful feelings of their hearts, and consecrate themselves to the service of their divine benefactor; and that together with their sincere acknowledgments and offerings, they may join the penitent confession of their manifold sins, whereby they had forfeited every favor, and their humble and earnest supplication that it may please God, through the merits of Jesus Christ, mercifully to forgive and blot them out of remembrance; that it may please him graciously to afford his blessings on the governments of these states respectively, and prosper the public council of the whole; to inspire our commanders both by land and sea, and all under them, with that wisdom and fortitude which may render them fit instruments, under the providence of Almighty God, to secure for these United States the greatest of all blessings, independence and peace; that it may please him to prosper the trade and manufactures of the people and the labor of the husbandman, that our land may yield its increase; to take schools and seminaries of education, so necessary for cultivating the principles of true liberty, virtue and piety, under his nurturing hand, and to prosper the means of religion for the promotion and enlargement of that kingdom which consisteth in righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.

And it is further recommended, that servile labor, and such recreation as, though at other times innocent, may be unbecoming the purpose of this appointment, be omitted on so solemn an occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they were just a bunch of Diest I wonder why they passed the following in Congress (among many others):</p>
<p>Saturday, November 1, 1777</p>
<p>The committee appointed to prepare a recommendation to the several states, to set apart a day of public thanksgiving, brought in a report; which was taken into consideration, and agreed to as follows:</p>
<p>Forasmuch as it is the indispensable duty of all men to adore the superintending providence of Almighty God; to acknowledge with gratitude their obligation to him for benefits received, and to implore such farther blessings as they stand in need of; and it having pleased him in his abundant mercy not only to continue to us the innumerable bounties of his common providence, but also smile upon us in the prosecution of a just and necessary war, for the defense and establishment of our unalienable rights and liberties; particularly in that he hath been pleased in so great a measure to prosper the means used for the support of our troops and to crown our arms with most signal success:</p>
<p>It is therefore recommended to the legislative or executive powers of these United States, to set apart Thursday, the 18th day of December next, for solemn thanksgiving and praise; that with one heart and one voice the good people may express the grateful feelings of their hearts, and consecrate themselves to the service of their divine benefactor; and that together with their sincere acknowledgments and offerings, they may join the penitent confession of their manifold sins, whereby they had forfeited every favor, and their humble and earnest supplication that it may please God, through the merits of Jesus Christ, mercifully to forgive and blot them out of remembrance; that it may please him graciously to afford his blessings on the governments of these states respectively, and prosper the public council of the whole; to inspire our commanders both by land and sea, and all under them, with that wisdom and fortitude which may render them fit instruments, under the providence of Almighty God, to secure for these United States the greatest of all blessings, independence and peace; that it may please him to prosper the trade and manufactures of the people and the labor of the husbandman, that our land may yield its increase; to take schools and seminaries of education, so necessary for cultivating the principles of true liberty, virtue and piety, under his nurturing hand, and to prosper the means of religion for the promotion and enlargement of that kingdom which consisteth in righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.</p>
<p>And it is further recommended, that servile labor, and such recreation as, though at other times innocent, may be unbecoming the purpose of this appointment, be omitted on so solemn an occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: gbb</title>
		<link>http://notaboutreligion.com/2009/05/11/religious-wisdom-of-americas-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-27173</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It matters not whether they were  Christians or Deists. It is unequivocally clear from their letters and papers and the actual words of the constitution that they respected religious freedom and intended to establish a civil form of government and NOT a theocracy. They believed in natural inalienable rights that exist prior to and in spite of any government structure or law. There are aspects of a humans life and choices that are beyond the province of government. The founding fathers knew this. Apparently some are in denial of these simple and obvious truths. God gives men free will. Men will not get into heaven because their government legislates morality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It matters not whether they were  Christians or Deists. It is unequivocally clear from their letters and papers and the actual words of the constitution that they respected religious freedom and intended to establish a civil form of government and NOT a theocracy. They believed in natural inalienable rights that exist prior to and in spite of any government structure or law. There are aspects of a humans life and choices that are beyond the province of government. The founding fathers knew this. Apparently some are in denial of these simple and obvious truths. God gives men free will. Men will not get into heaven because their government legislates morality.</p>
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		<title>By: Cass Midgley</title>
		<link>http://notaboutreligion.com/2009/05/11/religious-wisdom-of-americas-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-12702</link>
		<dc:creator>Cass Midgley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dennis
That little story is not in the Bible

@Nick
resorting to name-calling doesn&#039;t represent well 

&quot;The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them.&quot;
— Maya Angelou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dennis<br />
That little story is not in the Bible</p>
<p>@Nick<br />
resorting to name-calling doesn&#8217;t represent well </p>
<p>&#8220;The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them.&#8221;<br />
— Maya Angelou</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 04:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Nick and Dennis

Can you guys please present source material other than the Bible that supports your argument that they in fact did build this country on Christian Principles?  I have yet to find any in my research.  It&#039;s not fair to say &quot;you&#039;re wrong&quot; when you don&#039;t have material to back up your position either.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nick and Dennis</p>
<p>Can you guys please present source material other than the Bible that supports your argument that they in fact did build this country on Christian Principles?  I have yet to find any in my research.  It&#8217;s not fair to say &#8220;you&#8217;re wrong&#8221; when you don&#8217;t have material to back up your position either.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: dennis sullivan</title>
		<link>http://notaboutreligion.com/2009/05/11/religious-wisdom-of-americas-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-8560</link>
		<dc:creator>dennis sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting your thoughts. However, your thoughts were your own and not based upon evidence nor upon founding papers. You no doubt form your conclusions upon a notion that will not allow a real God to whom you will be responsible. You do not have to make allowance for Him to be there.  One day you will be introduced to the truth when it is too late.  You must spend lots of time denying that which is obvious. The story is told in the Bible of two men who gazed into the heavens. One said &#039;isn&#039;t God great&#039;. The other turned and cut down a tree and made himself his own god. You are of the second. The tree you cut down will one day cry out as testimony against you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting your thoughts. However, your thoughts were your own and not based upon evidence nor upon founding papers. You no doubt form your conclusions upon a notion that will not allow a real God to whom you will be responsible. You do not have to make allowance for Him to be there.  One day you will be introduced to the truth when it is too late.  You must spend lots of time denying that which is obvious. The story is told in the Bible of two men who gazed into the heavens. One said &#8216;isn&#8217;t God great&#8217;. The other turned and cut down a tree and made himself his own god. You are of the second. The tree you cut down will one day cry out as testimony against you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer W</title>
		<link>http://notaboutreligion.com/2009/05/11/religious-wisdom-of-americas-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Noko</title>
		<link>http://notaboutreligion.com/2009/05/11/religious-wisdom-of-americas-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-1561</link>
		<dc:creator>Noko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” John Adams, Treaty of Tripoly, article 11 

And they were Deists, not Christians. Know the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick</p>
<p>“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” John Adams, Treaty of Tripoly, article 11 </p>
<p>And they were Deists, not Christians. Know the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do more research you dipshit- they were indeed Christians why do you think they decided to use the holy bible to swear in the president of the united states just a thought- plus if you do your own research you will find out different</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do more research you dipshit- they were indeed Christians why do you think they decided to use the holy bible to swear in the president of the united states just a thought- plus if you do your own research you will find out different</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Pires</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulo Pires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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